According to The Huffington Post, George R.R. Martin, famed creator of A Song of Ice and Fire, which were the basis for Game of Thrones, has had it with the show’s fandom. He admitted he finds a ‘toxic’ atmosphere to online fandoms when he was a guest on ‘Maltin On Movies’ where he commented on the backlash to the ending of Game of Thrones, which was not warmly received by the fanbase (to say the least). He said that the internet has amplified toxic fandom to new heights, which was nothing like the old days of science fiction and fantasy communities. Martin directly said:
The Internet is toxic in a way that the old fanzine culture and fandoms — comics fans, science fiction fans in those days – was not. There were disagreements. There were feuds, but nothing like the madness that you see on the internet.
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The divisive reaction to the show’s reaction has effectively lit the show’s fandom on fire. There have been fan petitions, calling for the entire eighth season to be remade. Cast members such as Sophie Turner have criticized these petitions, calling them ‘disrespectful’ to the show’s creators and creative team. Criticism has been labeled against the show’s final series for ‘bad writing’, a rushed conclusion to the previous seven seasons of buildup, and complaints against decisions such as Daenerys burning King’s Landing to the ground despite the city’s surrender.
Still, the backlash seems to be a bit out of control. Maybe George is right and we should all calm down a little. After all, this IS just a tv show and these are just fictional characters. It may have been bad but that doesn’t negate the wonderful experience and remarkable achievement that Game of Thrones ultimately was. Plus, we have the books still to look forward to (if they ever come out) and more Game of Thrones spinoffs on the horizon, including a series about the origins of the White Walkers starring Naomi Watts.
What are your thoughts on the fandom backlash? Let us know in the comments!
Jaime has come a long way from his early days on Game of Thrones. He began as a villain on the show, so devoted to an incestuous relationship with his sister, Cersei Lannister that he did terrible things, such as pushing Bran Stark out a window, thus crippling the boy for life. But as the series progressed, he began to move down a path of redemption, growing as a person through his interactions with Brienne of Tarth and being further humbled through the loss of his hand. Jaime proved himself as a person capable of change, of growth, while Cersei doubled down on her own inner flaws and became a fully fledged tyrant. Both siblings began to drift apart, clearly showing Jaime as a fundamentally better person than Cersei (though that is not hard.) All signs pointed towards Jaime becoming a hero and this seemed to be confirmed in his last scene with Cersei in Season 7. Cersei had just been shown absolute proof that the White Walkers were real and coming to kill everyone in Westeros. She seemed to ally with Jon Snow and Daenerys to fight the oncoming threat but later revealed to Jaime that she was lying, hoping to weaken her enemies and claim the Iron Throne unopposed.
Jaime was horrified by this plan, so much so that he rode away from King’s Landing and joined with the forces of Winterfell this season. His arc seemed to be reaching a happy conclusion, especially with him and Brienne consummating their mutual attraction to each other.
Until, well, all that character development suddenly did a swan dive off a cliff.
Jamie and Cersei’s relationship had clearly fractured, broken by the paths their mutual character development had taken them down. Jaime’s path had evolved naturally to make him a better person, which is why it was sudden and jarring when he appeared to do a 180. After bedding Brienne, suddenly and seemingly out of nowhere, Jaime left her in the middle of the night, told her how ‘hateful’ he was while claiming his devotion to Cersei, and rode off to be with her in King’s Landing. This could have been seen as perhaps a lie, a trick, or setting up for Jamie to even kill Cersei as had longed been hinted at but nope! In the latest episode of Game of Thrones, The Bells, Jamie dies in the arms of Cersei while claiming his love to her before they’re both buried in the collapse of the Red Keep.
This felt wrong. Jamie should not have returned to Cersei. Their relationship had naturally broken over the course of the series and for them to embrace each other as if nothing had ever happened between them, as if their mutual paths meant nothing, just feels like honestly a slap in the face. Jaime deserved so much better than what he got in the past few episodes, where he seemingly forgot all that he had learned, endured, and seen in favor of dying with the woman he had grown to hate. Perhaps this could have worked if more time had been devoted to showing why Jamie still loved Cersei, why he was willing to abandon his friends to go back to her, but thanks to the rather rushed pace of this season, it comes out of the blue and seems to ignore the character’s internal logic.
Jamie’s arc had naturally pointed to him rising above his twisted beginnings and becoming a good man. And he almost did! But at the last minute, he just reversed back to his origins in Season 1. A lot of the characterizations in Season 8 have been rather wonky but Jamie’s especially stings, as it feels like the writers just chose to ignore his redemption arc for no real reason. Jamie keeps claiming he loves Cersei, even though we’ve seen that clearly isn’t the case anymore. But instead, he dies a rather pathetic death, buried under a pile of rocks with the woman who mere episodes ago he was disgusted by. It was an insulting end to one of the show’s best characters, especially one who had evolved so far and shown so much more depth than what he appeared to be at first glance.
What were your thoughts on Jamie’s characterization this season? Tell us in the comments!
All things come to an end. In just a little over two weeks, the biggest tv show in the world will bow out at long last. Doubtlessly, the fanbase will be in tears and we’re extremely sad to see it go but also praying it has the ending we’ve all been hoping for. However, it appears that Game of Thrones content won’t come to an end so quickly and in fact, a whole wave of GOT media will be coming our way very soon!
According to the Huffington Post , George R.R. Martin has revealed plans are in place for the ‘successor shows’ to Game of Thrones and that they are moving ahead quite quickly. The shows will hit HBO in the next couple of years and the programming president hopes they live up to the tremendous high bar set by Game of Thrones. Martin further update fans via his personal blog, revealing several salivating details about the upcoming set of spinoffs!
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“The one I am not supposed to call THE LONG NIGHT will be shooting later this year, and two other shows remain in the script stage, but are edging closer. What are they about? I cannot say. But maybe some of you should pick up a copy of FIRE & BLOOD and come up with your own theories.”
Based on Martin’s statement, it appears the first spinoff in the works will be perhaps a prequel centered on the White Walkers, detailing their possibly origins and the first ‘Long Night’ that has become myth for the characters in the present era of Game of Thrones. Fire & Blood, meanwhile, details the history of House Targaryan, centered around the era of Aegon and his descendants at the height of their power. Both spinoffs sound very exciting, filling in the gaps of Game of Throne’s detailed history and providing more context for how their events effect the characters today.
Furthermore, it is been revealed that none of the characters from the main show will be in the spinoffs, showcasing that they will be centered around a new cast. However, creators have revealed that the cast will feature ‘strong’ men and women, an ensemble as in the model of the parent show. One star has been announced to appear in The Long Night show, Naomi Watts, although the role she is supposed to play has not been revealed yet. But we’re very excited to see a spinoff chronicling the first clash between humanity and the white walkers. Maybe we’ll even see the origin of the Night King!
Are you looking forward to the eventual spinoffs? What are some ideas you can think of for potential successor shows? And are you sad to see the main show come an end? Let us know!
The latest episode of Game of Thrones was hyped beyond belief. “The Battle for Winterfell” was possibly the most anticipated episode of the season, showcasing the war between the united characters of Westeros (sans Cersei) vs. the White Walkers in what was thought to be a bloodbath of epic proportions, on par with the Red Wedding. But when the episode came roaring onto screens last night, it had some noticeable issues that, in this author’s opinion, prevented it from reaching the heights of true greatness. We’ll delve more deeply into SPOILERS in this review of “The Long Night” but before we do, here’s your chance to turn back now in case you haven’t seen the episode.
So, turn back now! Last warning?
Alright, still here. Then let’s take a look at what worked and what didn’t in last night’s epic battle.
The opening moments of the battle start off grinding out the tension. The defenders of Winterfell stand assembled. Grey Worm stands before the gates, standing stalwart with his fellow Unsullied. Jamie Lannister, Brienne of Tarth, Podrick Payne, Tormund Giantsbane, Samwell Tarly, Sandor Clegane, Beric Dondarrion, Jorah Mormont, Davos Seaworth, Ghost, and Lyanna Mormont stand among their ranks. Arya and Sansa Stark stand tall on the walls. Tyrion Lannister and Gilly hide underneath Winterfell in the crypts with the common citizens. The dragons circle overhead. Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen finally stand side by side on the highest point of the keep, staring ahead into the darkness beyond. Its so quiet you can hear a pin drop as the tension is ratcheted up beyond belief, as the characters stare off from the sanctuary of Winterfell, unable to see into the darkness beyond, waiting…waiting…for something to happen.
Melisandre arrives presently (nice to see you again!) and although Davos doesn’t trust her, he allows her inside. Melisandre gifts the soldiers of Winterfell with the blessing of the Lord of Light, making their swords alight with flame similar to Beric’s own. The army then charges off to meet the army of the dead and flaming cannonballs are fired off. They strike something ahead, engulfing the battlefield with pockets of light…showcasing a HUGE tide of wights coming out of the darkness. What follows next is one of the episode’s brilliant moments, as the POV switches back to Winterfell, with the sea of torches visible in the distance. One by one, with no sound, the torches go out. The terror at this situation is boldly felt and captures the horror of the White Walkers without them even being seen. A great artistic choice, well done!
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But that’s when the episode takes a sharp left turn towards incomprehensibility. As the wights swarm Winterfell en masse, the defenders rush out to meet them. What should be a great/terrifying action scene is unfortunately marred by one fact: you can’t see what’s happening! Between the very dark lighting, the fast paced editing, and the chaotic style of the melee itself, the action is downright incomprehensible. You can’t see what’s happening onscreen, which is problematic to follow the characters who are in real mortal peril fighting for their lives against the surge of the undead. This is a problem that pervades throughout the entire episode and unfortunately, one that brings it down considerably. Its almost impossible to tell what’s happening onscreen throughout the battle through much of its runtime and considering the sheer scale of the battle itself, this is a huge problem. We want to see what’s happening! We want to see who lives and dies! But whether through design or error, you simply can’t throughout ‘The Long Night’.
Some of these moments were obviously intentional, such as when the Night King arrives and his Walkers conjure an enormous blizzard to blind the dragons as Jon and Daenerys pursue him. This scene captures the frantic pursuit very well, being very hard to see as the dragons race around desperately through the blizzard, getting attacked at points by the Night King atop his zombie dragon and only providing brief moments of relief as the two exit the blizzard. But at other points, you simply can’t tell what’s going on, such as when Grey Worm and the Unsullied defend the gate, Jamie and Brienne fighting desperately on the walls against the endless tide, or when Arya is sneaking around inside Winterfell, trying to avoid lurking wights. The episode is unfortunately undercut by the fact that we can’t see any of it.
You could argue it is a stylistic choice in order to capture the chaotic pace of medieval warfare. However, previous episodes such as “Battle of the Bastards” embrace this as well and they weren’t nearly as visually hard to follow. You can blend the chaotic style of medieval warfare with comprehensible cinematography without an issue, as previously shown, but this episode just couldn’t do it for whatever reason.
Still, this episode was full of cool moments when we could see them. Lyanna Mormont’s death scene was a tearjerking highlight, as she faces down an undead giant that smashes its way through the gates. The monster begins butchering soldiers and slaps the little girl aside. But Lyanna gets right back up and with a scream of a warrior, charges back in towards the towering monster. The giant grabs her and begins crushing her but Lyanna, with her last breath, stabs the beast with a dragon glass dagger, killing the giant at the cost of her own life. RIP, Lyanna, you went out like a boss!
Other great moments included Sansa and Tyrion’s heart-to-heart scenes in the crypts as the battle raged overhead, bringing their relationship closer as they spoke of how they were nearly married, the dragon fight as Jon Snow took on the Night King’s undead mount in a midair duel to the death, and Jon Snow attempting to kill the Night King himself only to be stopped by a wall of zombies that the Night King raises from the corpses of the battlefield. The last stand of Theon Greyjoy was also a great moment of the character, as Theon faced down dozens of wights to defend Bran, getting a solemn thank you from Bran as his former brother told him he was a good man. Theon then ran at the Night King himself, only to be gutted and died. A great ending of the character and another badass exit.
Still, despite what viewers thought would be a bloodbath of an episode, there really weren’t that many ‘big’ deaths. Theon Greyjoy, of course, has been a pivotal part of the show but his importance has waned with time and he was much more of a side character in the lead up to his demise. Lyanna Mormont’s death of course was heartbreaking, but she was never a main cast member, just a member of the supporting cast to whom viewers grew attached (for good reason). Beric Dondarrion also perished but his status as a cast member is quite similar to Lyanna. Melisandre walked her last at the episode’s end but she too had been dwindling in importance and the fact that was the first time she showed up in a long while undermined her death scene, as it appeared she appeared out of the blue simply to die. Arguably the ‘biggest’ death was Jorah Mormont, who died defending Daenerys from endless waves of zombies, but even he wasn’t a main cast member either. Everyone who was on the A-list came away relatively scott-free, without even any serious injuries to show for it. Even characters who arguably should have died— i.e: Sansa and Tyrion trapped in the crypts with the undead, Samwell buried in an avalanche of wights, and Jamie and Brienne overrun by wights— survived. Honestly, it’s a little disappointing that not a single main cast member perished, especially considering Game of Thrones’s reputation of killing anyone, everyone, no matter who they are. Perhaps we overhyped ourselves but still…its disappointing nonetheless.
Of course, the most controversial moment will be the death of the Night King himself. The big guy perished at the hands of Arya, who shanks him with her dagger, causing the Night King to quite suddenly explode, with his entire army of zombies falling apart with his death. It is a sudden, jarring moment, perhaps somewhat anti-climatic, but one that feels more in line with the show’s desire to subvert audience expectations. One hopes we’ll learn a bit more about the White Walkers now that they’re gone, as the Night King and his troops never showed their motivations nor any real personality traits. They were just evil and while that certainly made them threatening, it would be a disappointment if they didn’t have much else going for them.
It seems now Cersei will become the threat for the reminder of the season. We’ll have to wait to see what happens but it be a bit sour to have the supposedly main threat offed and a smaller, more petty threat take his place. Still, we’re sure the showrunners have something up their sleeves.
The Battle for Winterfell proved to be a rather mixed bag. With the lighting issues, lack of character deaths, and the death of the Night King sorted in with a truly epic scale and great moments this one isn’t bad but perhaps fell short of true greatness. We can only hope Cersei proves herself to be just as a threat as the Night King’s forces but we’ll have to see.
To celebrate the premiere of Game of Thrones’s first episode, let’s turn our eyes to the past. While Game of Thrones is known for layered characters, political intrigue, and unexpected deaths, its no doubt the series has some kickass action scenes too. Its eye for spectacle has only grown since the show’s early days, creating massive battle scenes that normally would be reserved for an epic movie like Lord of the Rings. Here are (in our opinion) the top five best ones!
5. daenerys attacks the Lannisters
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This attack came out of nowhere, both for the audience and the characters. Following House Lannister’s victory over the Tyrells, the Lannister caravan, led by Jamie and Bronn were returning home with loot they had taken from Highgarden. That’s when the ambush happened: Dothraki forces charged over the grasslands, attacking the Lannister caravan en masse. Then Daenerys herself descended on the back of her dragon, Drogon, and unleashed Hell on the soldiers below. The terrifying results of a dragon attack are realized first hand, as the action follows Bronn stumbling through the flaming wreckage of the attack, stumbling past his fellow soldiers burning alive in a scene of complete chaos and frenzy. Only Bronn managed to shoot Drogon with a lucky shot drives the dragon off, but no before Jamie charges the dragon with spear in hand, a badass moment even if he doesn’t succeed and nearly drowns for his troubles.
4. The Massacre of Hardhome
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The moment where Game of Thrones truly showcased the threat of the White Walkers, the undead army descended upon the fishing village of Hardhome in force. As the Night King watched like some sort of dark god from the cliffs above, the wights were unleashed upon the village, overwhelming the wildlings and slaughtering everything in sight. Filmed as chaotically as possible, the sequence captured the unstoppable nature of the enemy first hand and allowed Jon to duel a White Walker one on one amidst the frenzy. And of course, the unforgettable image of the Night King raising all the villagers he’d just killed as zombified servants in the battle’s aftermath will forever linger in our minds.
3. Battle of Castle Black
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This one was one for the books. A battle so huge and massive an entire episode was devoted to showcasing it in all its glory, the Battle of Castle Black featured the wildlings assault the Wall, facing off against the badly outmatched forces of the Night’s Watch. Crowd pleasing moments were flowing from the episode: giant mammoths! A huge scythe bursting from the Wall to sweep off wildling climbers! The death of Ygritte! And of course, the epic tracking shot that followed all the major characters through the battle, showcasing their individual struggles amidst the madness. This one is pure excitement and features some of the best action the show has ever had.
2. The Battle of the Bastards
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The showdown with Ramsay Snow was built up off over multiple seasons, with the audience growing more and more desperate to see the evil man meet his end. And the Battle of the Bastards did not disappoint. Jon Snow leads his forces against Ramsay’s own to retake Winterfell from House Bolton and the action kicked off from there. The visual component truly captures the frantic combat of a battle scene, with Jon stumbling around the battlefield, swiping madly at opponents as horses charge, men die, and the entire scene turns into a blur. At one point, Bolton forces trap his army and as the bodies pile up, Jon Snow is nearly buried in an avalanche of corpses. This leads to the crowd cheering moment when Sansa arrives to save him, leading to the routing of Bolton forces back to Winterfell and Jon finally beating the utter crap out of Ramsay. The aftermath of the battle was even sweeter: watching Sansa take revenge on Ramsay and allowing the sadistic villain to be eaten alive by his own dogs.
1. The Battle of Blackwater
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The first of Game of Throne’s epic battle scenes and ultimately, still the best. Pitting Stannis Baratheon against the Lannisters, our sympathy and focus ultimately goes to Tyrion, whose trying to defend his home despite the machinations of his relatives. The battle featured one of the most iconic moments of the series, where Bronn, at Tyrion’s orders, ignites wildfire in the bay and blows almost all of Stannis’s fleet to Hell. Of course, the battle isn’t over yet, Stannis leading the reminders of his forces onto the beach and laying siege to the keep. He almost gets inside too, but Tywin arrives at the last minute, saving King’s Landing and getting credit. But we all know Tyrion was the real hero of the day. Blackwater set the standard for what was to come but still holds up today and we’ll never forget the images and the tension it crafted.
What are your favorite Game of Thrones battles? Tell us in the comments!